If you have to buy only one of two then go for the raven... with it many effects in the trailer of
the bat can be performed with the raven.
The bat is noisy for vanishes. (Except for a
dime?)
If you buy it dont keep the raven and bat at the same place. Maybe I'm imagining
things but the ring effect seems harder to produce since I kept them at the same place for some
time.
Buy the bat if you want to performe telekinetic effects or that penny standing one on
top of the other. Don't buy it if you solely plan to use it to vanish coins with your hands.
Morover the bat is a strong tool. Use it cautiously. It is also a versatile tool if you take the
time to use it not in the most obvious way. Buy Alexander De Cova's 3 DVDs called Treasures for more
ideas.
As I said about the raven, this item's range of use can be widened with PK Putty
available at penguin magic at a very reasonable price.
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Great device. In a nutshell, it's a less powerful M5. It's great that you can stop time (a watch),
move objects, perform PK type tricks while appearing clean the whole time. Totally mystifies
people. The learning curve is nil. If you use a PK ring, you'll like this. You can also do vanishes,
but I perfer slieght if hand or the Raven. I'm tempted to get a second one just for the ease of
maximumizing all the effects without repositioning.
Can't be the WOW factor, ease of
handling, and difficulty of beings discovered for the bucks. ADD IT NOW or get one soon.
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I was absolutley flaming when I got this. I mean I was so mad for spending my money on this, and
having it not work. I read through the instructions and everything too. But then all of a sudden, it
came to me. I don't know what I did differently, but the Bat is amazing. If you like the PK rings,
get this too! My friend and I made up a whole routine, completly on the spot last night for a small
crowd of people. They loved it.
Just buy it, you won't regret it.
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The bat is the best thing i've bought from Penguin so far. It's really fun if you get good with it.
However, if you are buying the bat to move stuff etc.. you might be a little disappointed with it.
Although I don't have the raven I've seen them, and I'd say that if you have the extra money, and if
you are only wanting to make things vanish, buy a raven. Bat or Raven, you can show your hands empty
with both and you will like what you get which ever one you buy.
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I just got The Bat and it's great. Except don't try to vanish coins with it- get the Raven for
that. It's great for PK and all that stuff. Good product!
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I can't compare this with the Raven or pk since I don't own them, but this is aweful. These are the
reasons why I don't like it:
1. Hard to conceal
2. Not strong at all
3. Makes
sounds when something vanishes
4. Coin vanishes are not possible in short sleeves
5. Can't
be reset without detection
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Well, I don't know what to say.
Maybe I am not a gimmick person or maybe this gimmick
isn't what it completely claims.
I bought the Bat DVD as well. So, here is what I felt
about this.
For vanishes this thing is noisy. Plus angle sensitive. As you rotate your
hand, the coin might get slightly visible sometimes (depends on where it gets stuck!). For vanish, I
would suggest the Raven. It's the best!
Linking rings....the magnetic flux isn't enough.
sometimes they link and sometimes they don't at all! :-/ I spent hours trying to capture any minute
mistake in my handling. Realized the magnet isn't that strong. It's a pain.
PK effects
might work. But then you ll have to come up with your own method of handling the bat for that. The
DVD can be used to trigger ideas to you. But most of the tricks aren't truly practical.
This isn't an ordinary gimmick. It can do so much. Maybe the handling wasn't that much
impressive in the tutorial but I ll soon come up with my own ideas to use the Bat effectively.
If you are creative, buy this. Else save the money for Raven, as it can do almost all the
effects of Bat. Cheers.
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The BAT is amazing! It's clings unnoticed, can move things in the spectator's hand, vanish, change
coins, move everyday items, charge any kind of rings, stop watches, rub a coin through solid glass,
disapear a match and have it appear back in a matchbox, make a pendulum swing and so much more! You
can come up with your own ideas! I carry The BAT EVERYWHERE I go! The BAT rules! Add to cart now!
i just got this today and its the best .it is a very clever gimmick. i even found a way to do coin
through table with it
three words ADD TO CART!!
The bat is simple to use and can make a big impression. I did the brass rings trick and the coin
change in spectators hand trick at a recent wedding, i have never heard my aunt swear like that. I
highly reccomend it.
Pros:
cheap.
Great reactions.
with practice it is impossible
to get caught.
includes other effects like watch stop and moving silverwhere, both of which are
also reputation makers
cons
you can get caught if you dont practice
you have to
buy first.