Being October already and needing orange/black mouth coils, I ordered these which were in stock. these coils are ok. Not all coils that I received were made the same. Some were taped too tightly. After re-adjusting they worked better. Either way, due to thinner than normal paper, every coil ripped during performance. Hard to start the coils, even harder while in mouth during performance, after they ripped. As a "pro" who has used mouth coils for almost 2 decades, I managed to use these coils without too much problems but would not recommend to someone new to coils.